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		<title>Factors Underlying Mental Disorders Depicted in Pink Floyd’s The Wall</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Using Pink Floyd's The Wall, this episode explores psychiatric diagnosis through music, film, trauma, and medical education.]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The diagnosis and clinical management of various mental disorders are aided by knowing the predisposing, precipitating, and perpetuating factors in a given case. Both the themed album and the full-length movie of Pink Floyd’s, <em>The Wall</em>, depict these factors in the course of the main character’s—&#8221;Pink’s”— mental health deterioration through music and film. In this episode, we draw from selected songs on the album and from selected scenes in the movie connecting the three factors with particular behaviors Pink manifests. In the process, we show how they are used in medical education and training in real time.</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Joining us is Dr. Anthony Tobia, who is the campus chair in the Department of Psychiatry at the Rutgers School of Medicine and is also the Service Chief of Psychiatry at Robert Wood Johnson Barnabas Health in New Brunswick, NJ. Dr. Tobia is certified by the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology and is certified in internal medicine and psychosomatic medicine. He also holds a secondary appointment in the Division of General Internal Medicine at Rutgers. Dr. Tobia is the Director of Graduate and Interprofessional Education at Rutgers University Behavioral Health and has received the Outstanding Clinical Faculty Member Excellence Award in 2018 and 2019. He is an active contributor to the medical literature with publications, reviews, and abstracts. Dr. Tobia’s educational interests include the merging of popular culture and the field of behavioral medicine, which is evident from this episode and from his previous appearance on <a href="https://medhum.org/interview/artist-interview/russell_teagarden/heal-me-childhood-trauma-in-the-whos-tommy-with-dr-anthony-tobia/">the podcast episode featuring <em>The Who’s Tommy</em></a>. Along with Dr. Tobia for this episode is Kevin Frederiks, who at the time of recording, was a fourth-year medical student at Rutgers.</p>



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<p class="has-palette-color-5-background-color has-background has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Citations</strong><br>For the recorded album: Pink Floyd. <em>The Wall</em>. Columbia Records, 1979.<br>For the movie: Parker, Alan, director. <em>Pink Floyd The Wall</em>. MGM, 1982.<br><br><strong>Link</strong><br>Please send us comments, recommendations, and questions here, or email to: <span 
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2024 07:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Who’s Tommy is used to explore psychiatric trauma, with its iconic songs helping teach mental health concepts to students and professionals.]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When the British band, The Who, released their double album,&nbsp;<em>Tommy</em>, in 1969, many of the songs in it became instant classics and served as anthems for the Baby Boomer generation ever since. The album was characterized as a “rock opera,” because when connected, the songs told the story of the “deaf, dumb, and blind kid,” Tommy. The storyline made possible subsequent musicals, first as a movie in 1975, and then as a Broadway play in 1993 and as a revival in 2024. Underlying the storyline in each of these genres are the psychiatric consequences of childhood trauma Tommy experiences. In this episode, we consider the psychiatric conditions Tommy exhibits through selected songs from the original Broadway production, and how they are used in education and training.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Dr. Anthony Tobia, who is the regional chair in the Department of Psychiatry at the Rutgers School of Medicine and is also the Service Chief of Psychiatry at Robert Wood Johnson Barnabas Health in New Brunswick, NJ. Dr. Tobia also holds a secondary appointment in the Division of General Internal Medicine there. His interests and scholarly work include the value and application of merging popular culture and psychiatry.&nbsp;<em>The Who’s Tommy</em>&nbsp;is among the many cultural works he has found helpful in depicting psychiatric problems for purposes of teaching health professions students and practitioners, and others in roles helping people with mental illness.</p>



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<p class="has-palette-color-5-background-color has-background has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Links</strong><br><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/2TQsCLDUh4uTWUbd0G5qHh" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Original Broadway cast album</a>&nbsp;of&nbsp;<em>The Who’s Tommy</em>, 1993<br>Background on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073812/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>The Who’s Tommy</em>&nbsp;movie</a>, 1975.<br><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/31KnightsOfHalloween/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">31 Knights of Halloween&nbsp;</a>didactic at Rutgers during October.<br><br><a href="https://www.theclinicandtheperson.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><strong>The Clinic &amp; The Person</strong></a> is a podcast developed by our editor<strong> <a href="https://medhum.org/about/#Russell-Teagarden">Russell Teagarden</a></strong> to summon or quicken the attention of health care professionals, their educators, researchers and others to the interests and plights of people with specific health problems aided through knowledge and perspectives the humanities provide.<br><br>Feature image recreated by Medhum using Tommy&#8217;s poster found on Wikipedia Common.</p>



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