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		<title>The Knick of Time </title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russell Teagarden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2025 19:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A gripping period medical drama, The Knick reveals past medical triumphs and terrors—urging reflection on today’s healthcare practices and ethics.]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Television has produced shows featuring the daily activities and dramas in medical practices from almost the beginning of television itself. Early programs, such as <em>Dr. Kildare, Ben Casey</em>, and <em>Dr. Welby</em>, all weekly shows airing for many years, attracted huge audiences. Medical shows have since been a consistent offering on television, some of the better known being, <em>St. Elsewhere</em>, <em>ER</em>, <em>Grey’s Anatomy</em>, <em>Chicago Hope</em>, and <em>House</em>. The medical series, <em>The Pitt</em>, represents the genre at present. Among the traits they share along with medical drama and personal drama, is being set in the era they were produced. <a href="https://www.cinemax.com/the-knick" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>The Knick</em></a> is an exception.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><em>The Knick</em> portrays all that goes on in and around a hospital struggling to provide care for the poorer classes in lower Manhattan during the early 1900s. It shows that many of what were then considered important advances in medicine, technology, society, and culture were later considered dangerous, unethical, barbaric, inhumane, and racist. The series asks whether health care of any era, along with associated social and cultural factors at work, are destined to be seen sometime in the future in similar ways.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Storylines of the Poor and the Famous</strong>&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><em>The Knick</em> was inspired by the Knickerbocker Hospital, founded in Harlem in 1862 to serve the poor. In this twenty-part television series spread over two seasons, the fictional Knick is located somewhere in the lower half of Manhattan around 1900. The time covered during the series is not marked in any distinct way. The characters do not age much, and although fashion and customs remain static during the series, the scope and significance of advancements that come into play were actually adopted over a longer time than the episodes cover. &nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The series builds on some known history. The central character, the chief surgeon Dr. John Thackery, is modeled on a famous surgeon of the time, Dr. William Halsted, in both his surgical adventurism and in his drug addictions. The character, Dr. Algernon Edwards, who is an African-American, Harvard-educated, and European-trained surgeon, is based in part on Dr. Louis T. Wright, who became the first African-American surgeon at Harlem Hospital during the first half of the twentieth century.  &nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Storylines of human drama and folly run through the series. Among them are medical cases both ordinary and bizarre, heroic successes and catastrophic failures, loves won and lost, gilded lives and wretched existences, honor and corruption, racism and more racism. Within these storylines are the scientific, medical, and industrial advances of the period, as well as the social frameworks that form <em>fin de siècle</em> hospital care and medical research in New York City.  &nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Some of the industrial advances adopted by the hospital include electrification, telephone service, and electric-powered ambulances. We see that transitions to these new technologies are not without risks and catastrophes: patients and hospital staff are electrocuted, and when the ambulance batteries died — a frequent occurrence– many of the patients they carried died, too.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Medical advances integrated into various episodes include x-rays, electric-powered suction devices, and an inflatable balloon for intrauterine compression to stop hemorrhages. Thackery is a driven researcher taking on some of the big problems of the day, such as making blood transfusions safe, curing syphilis, and discovering the physiologic mechanisms of drug addiction. We see how he learns at the cost of his patients, or rather his subjects. We also get a glimpse of movements directed at population health. For example, epidemiological methods are applied to find the source of a typhoid outbreak, which drew from the actual case of Mary Mallon (aka, Typhoid Mary). Shown juxtaposed to the advances in epidemiology is the concurrent interest that was rising in eugenics and its broad application to control for unwanted individual traits and particular groups of people. Research ethics and regulations were a long way off. &nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Time Tells</strong>&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Each era possesses its own hubris based on the technological advances and social progress made over those of previous eras, and on the certainty that the mistakes made before have not been repeated. Time reveals whether those attitudes and positions were justified. For Soderbergh, the director of the series, this idea was top of mind, and he stated as much in an interview published in the August 1, 2014 <em>New York Times</em>: &nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">There are so many treatments on the show that make you gasp because they’re so wrong…It just makes you wonder what treatments we’re all taking at face value that 10 or 15 years from now we’re going to be told, ‘Well, that didn’t work, and in fact that makes it worse.’ &nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Early twenty-first-century medical care has benefited from advances in molecular biology, medical devices, surgical procedures, data analytics, and epidemiological methods among others. People only participate in experimental protocols with their informed consent, and health care workforces are highly diverse. Impressive indeed, but none that in any way dwarf some of the advances shown during the series, and many that make twenty-first-century medical care possible. And, while <em>The Knick</em> shows how patients were often victims of bad science, bad technique, unproven technology, and malfeasance, the current era of health care is rife with risks for its own harms. Based on a complex analysis from several sources, the U.S. Institute of Medicine estimated in 1999 that between 44,000 and 98,000 people die from preventable medical errors each year in the US (<a href="https://nap.nationalacademies.org/resource/9728/To-Err-is-Human-1999--report-brief.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>To Err is Human</em></a>). In 2016, researchers from The Johns Hopkins University reported in the May 3, 2016 issue of <em>The BMJ</em> (The British Medical Journal), that at the time <em>The Knick </em>was running in 2014–2015, medical errors were the third leading cause of death in the U.S. While the the accuracy of these estimates could be challenged, we can take from them with some amount of certainty that medical error exists today to a significant degree.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><em>The Knick</em> pushes us to consider and to beware of what we may see resulting from modern-day biomedical and technological advances as time passes. To the medical drama and personal drama of most television medical serious, <em>The Knick</em> adds the drama of time.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</strong>&nbsp;</p>



<p class="has-palette-color-5-background-color has-background has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph"><br><em><strong>The Knick</strong></em><br>Steven Soderberg, director&nbsp;<br>Cinemax&nbsp;<br>Twenty episodes, 2014-2015&nbsp;<br>Running time: 42–57 minute episodes&nbsp;<br><br><strong>Awards</strong><br>Peabody Award&nbsp;<br>Six Primetime Emmys&nbsp;<br>Three Critics Choice Television awards&nbsp;<br><br><em>The Knick</em> began streaming on HBO Max on February 20, 2021&nbsp;</p>



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		<title>Demon Copperhead by Barbara Kingsolver </title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Howard Trachtman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2025 13:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A gripping novel of hardship and resilience, this story explores addiction, poverty, and personal triumph in a forgotten rural America.]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It is said that good fiction centers on three basic emotions – love, betrayal, and power – that are woven into archetypal plots &#8212; a journey in search of something real or imagined, a reversal of fortune, revelation of a mystery. Of course, this is an oversimplification, but it does capture a lot of books that we enjoy reading. One feature that is not included in this scheme is social protest. Where does it fit into the world of creative writing? Can it serve as an organizing principle for a successful novel?  </p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Demon Copperhead is nothing if not a novel centered on social concerns. It tells the story of a child born to a drug addicted mother in an oxycontin-ravaged community in western Virginia. He is delivered inside an intact amniotic sac, an anomaly that foreshadows a life-long fixation to see the ocean, any ocean. His mother has abysmal taste in men and repeatedly chooses to live with men who abuse her and physically threaten Demon. When she dies of a drug overdose, Demon is placed in foster care and forced to work countless hours as a virtual slave under horrible circumstances, without any consideration for his safety, by the person who is supposedly responsible for his wellbeing. He runs away and has a miserable encounter on the road with a streetwalker who entraps him and steals the hard-earned money that he has secretly saved and stashed away. Against all expectation, Demon reconnects with his dead father’s family, and they place him in a much more stable and secure environment – the home of the venerated coach of the local high school football team.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The coach takes a liking to Demon. He recognizes Demon’s hidden strengths and talents and encourages Demon to try out for the football team. Much to his surprise, Demon achieves star status as a tight end, no longer a faceless hillbilly from the back country of mobile homes. But true to the trajectory of the novel, Demon suffers a major injury to his knee. He refuses surgery and tries to tough it out. Pain medication is key to this strategy and, of course, this being Appalachia in the late 1990s, oxycontin is too easily prescribed by doctors and too accessible to patients. A painful decline into addiction and despair ensues. Many of Demon’s peers fall victim to the oxycontin plague. But unlike them, Demon is resilient. He is a talented artist, and from early childhood he would draw cartoon-like sketches to escape from his desultory life.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">With the help and support of an art teacher who takes him under her wing during high school, Demon creates a comic strip that dramatizes life in the backwoods of Virginia and that gains regional notoriety. As the novel nears the end, there is a dramatic passage in which Demon confronts his social nemesis on a mountain ridge during a windswept rainstorm. It evokes a climactic episode in Kingsolver’s earlier prize-winning book, <em>The Poisonwood Bible</em>, where the life of a key character is threatened by an attack of army ants in the middle of the night. Ultimately, Demon enters drug rehabilitation, perseveres through the rigors of withdrawal, and gets clean. Against all expectations, Demon finds love and redemption. The woman of his dreams has been there all along, but when it happens, you cannot help but smile as you watch the two lovers acknowledge their feelings for one another.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The title of the novel is a dead giveaway of who inspired it and Kingsolver acknowledges her debt to Charles Dickens in the postscript. Like her Victorian predecessor, Kingsolver is writing to protest the neglect and abuse that people, but especially children, living in post-manufacturing America have been forced to endure at the end of the 20<sup>th</sup> century and into the next. In her vision, the grim experiences of people like Demon and his family, whose lives are attached to the land, are profoundly different from city dwellers. After their land was stripped of its natural resources, the rural communities in states like Virginia and Tennessee were left to languish economically and fall victim to predatory pharmaceutical companies which promoted the use of drugs that the proprietors knew would increase dependence and addiction.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">There is a relentlessness to this story and Kingsolver’s voice in many respects echoes the Biblical prophets. For some readers, the book is almost too depressing. But I think that fails to give enough credit to her Dickensian style and outlook. The sequence of episodes in different locations and with a revolving cast of characters is reminiscent of the publication of Dickens’ novels in serial installments that can almost stand alone. The narrative pulsates with non-stop action and there is an optimism that Demon will always pull through. He is an engaging character, blessed with emotional reserves and intellectual gifts that enable him to overcome his baleful surroundings. In that sense, his story, like Dickens’ novels, may strike some as unrealistic. Perhaps that is the most effective way a writer can successfully enlist readers to rally to her social cause, by offering a vision of personal triumph over social and cultural adversity.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Coming back to the question I asked at the outset, can a novel inspired by social protest survive its era and outlive the conditions that spurred the author to put pen to paper, or fingers to keyboard? Novels like <em>David Copperfield</em> and <em>The Grapes of Wrath</em> are affirmative answers. I predict that the artistry of <em>Demon Copperhead</em> will ensure that it will still be read long after the environmental damage incurred by the coal mining industry and the human devastation of the opioid epidemic recede into history. Demon’s voice is so alive, his character is so engaging, and his tale is so moving that I am confident that the book will be on bookshelves or in data storage tools in a hundred years. It may be necessary to add notes to explain the ins and outs of the coal mining industry and how oxycontin was approved and marketed to an unsuspecting population, but those will be details that will not obscure the deep humanity of the book. &nbsp;</p>



<h4 class="wp-block-heading">Oprah In Conversation with Barbara Kingsolver</h4>



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<p class="has-palette-color-5-background-color has-background has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DEMON COPPERHEAD</strong> <br>Barbara Kingsolver <br>Harper Collins Publishers, New York, 2022, 548pp <br><br>Web photo by <a href="https://unsplash.com/@hilesy?utm_content=creditCopyText&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=unsplash">George Hiles</a> </p>



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		<title>The Tennis Partner by Abraham Verghese</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Hsu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2025 14:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Sports Literati X Apollo On Call</strong>&nbsp;</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This month, on <strong>Apollo On Call</strong>, we have a special collaboration podcast to share with you. My guest co-host for this episode is Dr. Dave Bryant.&nbsp; We usually meet up to podcast about sports books on the <strong><a href="https://www.sportsliterati.com/">Sports Literati</a> </strong>podcast. But this month, I managed to find a sports book that deals with medical humanities that is perfect collaboration material!&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>The Tennis Partner</strong> is a 1998 memoir by Abraham Verghese that talks about his friendship with a troubled former professional tennis player turned medical trainee named David Smith. At the time, Verghese was an infectious disease specialist in El Paso, Texas, where David was a medical student.  Verghese’s marriage was also coming apart at the seams. Into this void enters David. Determined to test his own tennis skills against a former pro, Abraham ends up befriending David over tennis and the two become close friends. As their lives unravel, we get a multi-layered story about friendship, medicine and tennis.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Have a listen and let us know what you think! And if you are interested in more sports booksdiscussions, check us out on the <a href="https://www.sportsliterati.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><strong>Sports Literati</strong> </a>podcast.&nbsp;</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 00:03&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;And when the tennis was over, I was empty. I had no crutch, nothing to make me feel special. The world was gray and dull. When she offered me the needle from the very first shot, I was hooked. It just seemed to fill the hole, he said, putting his fist over his chest, Right here.&nbsp;&#8221; from <em>The Tennis Partner</em></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 00:25&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Welcome to <strong>Apollo On Call</strong>, the podcast of <strong>MedHum.org</strong>. I&#8217;m your host. Dr. David Hsu, hope you enjoy the show.&nbsp; </p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 00:38&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">All right. We are back for our monthly <strong>Apollo On Call</strong> episode, and this is a special episode of <strong>Apollo On Call</strong>. I am joined here today by my co-host, Mr. Dave Bryant. Dave and I do a regular podcast called the <strong>Sports Literati</strong> podcast. If you haven&#8217;t heard of this, what we do on the <strong>Sports Literati</strong> is we break down a sports book every month. Actually, it&#8217;s like every two months, right? But we&#8217;re trying to bring the love of reading back for sports fans. And I thought, You know what, we should do a collaboration episode where we bring <strong>Sports Lit</strong> and <strong>MedHum </strong>together, because these are my two pet projects right now. So you know how when you go to the store and they have a designer, and he&#8217;s merging with <strong>Nike</strong>, and they put the big X sign between them, right? This is <strong>Sports Lit </strong>X <strong>Apollo On Call</strong>.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 01:34&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, this is very exciting. I&#8217;m so happy to be here and part of this crossover episode, this is exciting, Dave, and I can&#8217;t wait to dig into the book that we&#8217;ve read this month.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 01:44&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Right, and so the quote that Dave read is from <strong>The Tennis Partner</strong> by Abraham Verghese, which is a seminal work of medical humanities. It is, you know, on a lot of reading lists for medical trainees, and it&#8217;s actually a great sports book. I mean, the title kind of gives it away. It&#8217;s a great tennis book also. So checks off all the boxes. I actually read this book maybe 15 plus years ago when I was training as a doctor, and I kind of forgot about it. But recently, when I got in touch with <strong>MedHum</strong> and we were thinking about what would be a good thing to read, this book popped out. It was sitting on one of the tables at my mom&#8217;s house, and I flipped through it. I&#8217;m like, I kind of really want to read this again, so I made Dave read it. So we&#8217;re ready to go and talk about <strong>The Tennis Partner</strong> by Abraham Verghese.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB </strong>02:36&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Absolutely. And Dave, I personally want to thank you for bringing this book into my life. That&#8217;s what I think about this book.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH </strong>02:44&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Wow, he&#8217;s never thanked me for anything before.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB </strong>02:47&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">First time for everything. I&#8217;m not as well-read as you are you. I mean, you&#8217;ve probably read 1000s of books over the course of your life. I mean, for me, it would probably be in the hundreds at most, but I have to say, probably about 80 to 90% of the way through this book, I was sort of getting through the book, and I sort of talked to my wife about it, and I just told her, I think this might be the best book that I&#8217;ve ever read in my life. I&#8217;ve read some classics, right? You read some of the classics from high school. I’ve read Shakespeare, I&#8217;ve read <strong>Catcher in the Rye</strong>, I’ve read all these classic books, but none of them hit me the way this one hit me. And I know that probably sounds like high praise, and an exaggeration, but I don&#8217;t know, in my current mindset, this is the best book that I&#8217;ve read in a long time.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH </strong>03:47&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Well, normally we don&#8217;t tell the audience if we really liked the book or not. We always leave it to the end. We have this thing on <strong>Sports Lit</strong> where we kind of decide whether this book will belong in the pantheon of great sports books. But I feel like you already cast your vote and it&#8217;s over, like this book is already going to be on the list.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 04:04&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Are we still doing a pantheon even though this is a crossover episode? I feel like it&#8217;s not a pure sports book, so it doesn&#8217;t qualify in that sense.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 04:13&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">We will see, we will see. We&#8217;ll leave that discussion till the end. All right, I&#8217;m going to give everyone the two minute drill of what this book is about. So Abraham Verghese is a well-known physician, medical educator and writer. He, I believe, is currently teaching at <strong>Stanford University</strong>, and because of his writings, he&#8217;s a well-known name in the world of medical humanities. <strong>The Tennis Partner</strong> is one of his earlier books. It was written in the early 1990s and describes a period of time when he had moved to Texas. Specifically, he&#8217;s living in El Paso at the time, and he&#8217;s an internal medicine physician. He&#8217;s a specialist in infectious diseases. He had actually been working with a lot of AIDS patients in the 1980s when AIDS was becoming a thing. So this actually is part of this story too.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">While he&#8217;s in El Paso, he befriends a medical student named David Smith. The only reason he befriends David Smith at the beginning is because he hears in the medical hospital grapevine that David is a former tennis professional. And since Verghese is a tennis nut, and I can relate to that being a tennis nut myself, you know, he makes a point to befriend this guy and say, Let&#8217;s go hit some tennis balls. And he&#8217;s a very good recreational hack tennis player, and so the book talks about him and David getting to know each other on the tennis court, and also him teaching David on the wards and showing him the ropes of the hospital. David, at the time, I think he&#8217;s a third- or fourth-year medical student at the beginning of the story.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The backdrop of this is that his personal life, Abraham&#8217;s personal life, is starting to fall apart. He&#8217;s still living with his wife at the beginning of the story, but there are cracks in their marriage, and they&#8217;re kind of working towards gradually separating as the story goes. So in some ways, David is filling this gap that he needs for companionship while he&#8217;s in this new town.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Trouble is, as the story goes, we&#8217;ve kind of discovered that David has his own demons. He&#8217;s been in medical school for several years. He&#8217;s been in and out and in and out because of a history of substance abuse problems, and so these problems start to escalate as the story goes. And Abraham finds himself getting sucked into David&#8217;s orbit, befriending David, getting to know David&#8217;s girlfriend. And then when things start to unravel in David&#8217;s life. It kind of takes Abraham with him and the whole thing starts to spiral out of control. I won&#8217;t give away the actual ending, because I think people do need to read this, but it is a gut-wrenching finish, and basically is the story of these couple years. It&#8217;s a memoir of Abraham&#8217;s life, of this time period when his marriage was falling apart and he befriended David and this very, very complex relationship that teaches him and us something about medicine, something about life, something about death, something about the value of friendship and, most importantly, the value of tennis.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 07:23&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yes, indeed, tennis is does feel like the connective tissue that binds the story together. It&#8217;s almost like a character in itself. What struck me from your intro there is that although this is one story in one book, it&#8217;s weaving many stories together and this is an incredibly layered book. One thing, you have the story of these two men pursuing their medical careers at different points in their career, right? You have a story of addiction, you have the story of family dynamics, what happens to a family amid a divorce. You know, at its core, this is kind of a bromance, right? You have these two guys who really have not many other people in their lives besides each other, and the tennis is what brought them together. And they&#8217;re basically pals, they&#8217;re basically best friends, essentially, by the end of the book. This is also a period piece in a way, right? This is set in the late 80s, early 90s. It&#8217;s a different time in North America, it&#8217;s in the time of the AIDS epidemic. Dr. Verghese is an infectious diseases specialist, so he&#8217;s sort of right at the forefront. He&#8217;s seeing this happen, he&#8217;s seeing the AIDS epidemic happen right before his eyes. And this is a particular period of time in America. It&#8217;s also the story of El Paso, a border town. One thing that I love is when an author is able to paint a very vivid picture of a place that I don&#8217;t know anything about. And I don&#8217;t know much about El Paso. I&#8217;ve never been to El Paso, but what&#8217;s notable about it is that it straddles the border between the United States and Mexico, and that&#8217;s what makes it an interesting place. It makes it a unique place where you have the American influence and you have the Mexican influence. It has an interesting geography and topography that he goes into. It took me to that place. His writing was so vivid that it took me to that place in time. It is such an incredibly layered story.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 10:02&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Absolutely. It’s so layered, we probably haven&#8217;t even described every layer. There&#8217;s still a few other layers, I think, that you didn&#8217;t touch on.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 10:12&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, here&#8217;s another one. It&#8217;s basically a love letter to tennis. It’s a lifelong passion of the authors, and a lifelong passion of his tennis partner as well. And both of these passions sort of collide together and it makes the book what it is.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 10:35&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, I read this book about 15 years ago, and I don&#8217;t think it registered on me. I didn&#8217;t appreciate it that much. It was this time reading it, the second go around, that I was like, You&#8217;re right. This book, it&#8217;s not even just that it covers these topics and these themes, it&#8217;s just so well-paced, and the language is so right all the time, right? It&#8217;s just such a really smooth read. And then in the final third, it just ratchets up the tension and it turns into <strong>The Wire</strong>, actually. I mean, people who listen to us normally know that we love <strong>The Wire</strong>. And so it takes you to a really dark place at the end, but it is a great story.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 11:23&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, absolutely. And he&#8217;s such a talented writer. I&#8217;m so impressed by Dr. Verghese. First, I&#8217;m impressed by his technical acumen in medicine. I don&#8217;t know, all these little vignettes that he sort of described, like how he sort of looks at patients. It&#8217;s very interesting, as you sort of get into his mind, right? But he’s such a beautiful writer. The story is littered with just these beautiful anecdotes and vignettes. I mean, it&#8217;s clear he has a lot to say. There&#8217;s all these metaphors throughout the book. I mean, I would love to give an example, I can&#8217;t think of one right now.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH </strong>12:03&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Well, you will have a chance in the final quote. You get to read one more quote.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 12:09&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I can find one. I can uncover one. But it&#8217;s just there&#8217;s these beautifully done metaphors throughout the book linking often medical terms with his actual life.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 12:22&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Right, or even linking El Paso, some of the things that are particular to the community, like the indigenous community around that part of the desert with what&#8217;s actually happening in the hospital, or what&#8217;s happening with the illness. There&#8217;s so much to talk about and we don&#8217;t have all day. Let&#8217;s try to cover a few things that we want to hit. Give me something that you want to talk about, about this book.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 12:50&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">So, I mean, since it’s called <strong>The Tennis Partner</strong>, I feel like we should talk about the tennis a little bit and but I&#8217;m not thinking about tennis as a sport, I&#8217;m thinking more about tennis as a conduit and as a ritual. And I think the book makes the case that there&#8217;s a big value in having rituals in your life. That it becomes clear to me over the course of the book, that it becomes a ritual for both these guys, it&#8217;s just a part of their week. If they go a couple weeks without it, they feel a little bit off. And I think that&#8217;s what rituals are, right? You&#8217;re so used to doing it, it becomes part of your life. And when you&#8217;re not doing it, something about your life feels off.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 13:45&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I think it&#8217;s more than just a ritual. I think it&#8217;s almost like a haven from life for both of them. Because both of them, when we meet them, are struggling. David is struggling with his personal issues, and we don&#8217;t know that yet, right? We think he&#8217;s just a busy medical student. Abraham on the surface, is a dude with, you know, married, two kids, doctor, all the students look up to him. So they&#8217;re both putting on this veneer that, No, life is great. But actually they&#8217;re both cracking underneath slowly. And so the tennis is a thing that gives them some salvation for an hour each time they play. At the beginning, it&#8217;s really great, the tennis brings them together. When you play tennis, it&#8217;s like you&#8217;re imagining that you&#8217;re &#8211; Verghese does this all the time. He imagined that he&#8217;s John McEnroe. He imagines he&#8217;s Björn Borg. And so it&#8217;s this release. But then, as they play longer, you start to see the real-world things seep into the tennis. Sometimes they get angry at each other, they&#8217;re not always there for each other. At some points, David starts to get into some nasty rows with his girlfriend, and he doesn&#8217;t show up for tennis, and Abraham&#8217;s like, Why is he not here, right? Is she more important than me? There&#8217;s all sorts of these little mental games that they&#8217;re doing to each other around the tennis. So it&#8217;s not even that straightforward that, Okay, we just meet up every time, play, have a good time. It becomes layered with all the typical insecurities and anxieties that human beings have that I guess occur in all friendships, but especially occur in relationships, real deep relationships with people, like your girlfriend doesn&#8217;t call you right away, it makes you edgy. This type of stuff starts to happen to the characters in the story. So it is a conduit to bring these two people together, because without tennis, they wouldn&#8217;t have been brought together. But it also shows how complex human interaction can be, over something as seemingly straightforward as, Hey, meet me after your shift, let&#8217;s go hit some tennis balls.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 15:58&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Those are some great points, actually. It also struck me, now that I was listening to talk in that because they&#8217;re both going through such problems in their own lives, the tennis is like a therapy. It&#8217;s like a therapy session for them as well, almost like an unspoken therapy session where you just whack a few balls, you express yourself. It&#8217;s a way to express yourself non-verbally, doing something that you love.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 16:28&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Right, this is probably the only sports book we&#8217;ve read that talks about sport in this way, right? So sometimes we read sports books, and a lot of them talk about professional sports, which ultimately are sort of a silly endeavor, right? People are getting paid to play child&#8217;s games and then we as fans are watching and with bated breath to all the things that they do, and trying to feel amazement all the time. But this book is actually talking about sports for real. Regular people bringing their regular lives, and how your lives can be enhanced and changed by sport, which is a bit of a different thing, and I think it&#8217;s a cool way to think about it, because I&#8217;ve always felt this way about sports.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 17:12&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, I mean, it doesn&#8217;t have to be played at a professional level to have value, right? That&#8217;s what we&#8217;re seeing here. You don&#8217;t have to be the world&#8217;s greatest tennis player, to play tennis and enjoy tennis. You can play it for fun. That&#8217;s what sports should be, actually, it should be a fun endeavor. Shouldn&#8217;t be a professional high-stress endeavor. If you want to shoot some hoops, go shoot some hoops. If you want to put on some skates and skate around and play some shinny, go do that.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 17:42&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Now, I want to ask you a question. So you&#8217;re not in medicine, but you&#8217;re a dentist. Actually, I didn&#8217;t tell people this in the onset. So if you haven&#8217;t heard Dave talk before, he&#8217;s a dentist. Looking at Abraham&#8217;s relationship with David, there is some boundary issues occurring here. He is supposed to be David&#8217;s teacher and in medicine, and probably in dentistry, we&#8217;re always taught to try to keep a nice boundary between you and your patient, right? You don&#8217;t want to be going out to play tennis with your patient or go out for drinks with your patient, because that can get kind of weird. You also want to keep a boundary as an educator. You don&#8217;t want to take your students out for coffee too many times. Maybe if you become really close friends, you&#8217;re going to be less impartial when you have to grade them or evaluate them or make some tough choices. Abraham, because his love for tennis, throws all this out the window. He&#8217;s like, I gotta hit with a pro, and that&#8217;s more important than all that stuff. That&#8217;s how this starts. Do you feel like he goes way over the line of boundaries, or is what he does in this story still acceptable to you?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 19:01&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That&#8217;s something I hadn&#8217;t considered, and this is a really good point. It does feel like they need each other at some level, beyond just your typical mentor-mentee relationship. It starts off that way. That&#8217;s what they are, that&#8217;s literally what they are. They&#8217;re not friends. David is a student, and Abraham is his teacher. And, yeah, within that relationship, there should be boundaries, but this relationship evolves, and it clearly evolves over time, to the point where they become, as I said earlier, best friends. And once you get to that point, it&#8217;s hard to go back. It&#8217;s hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube at that point, right? To answer your question, yeah, I think he is overstepping. If you&#8217;re really looking from the viewpoint that he&#8217;s overseeing multiple students, with one of his students, specifically, he&#8217;s spending hours every week hitting a tennis ball with him, and going out for coffee, having meals together, knowing about each other&#8217;s personal lives, he&#8217;s been into his home, they&#8217;ve been to each other&#8217;s homes.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 20:23&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Right, if you describe it in a certain way, it almost sounds a little creepy.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 20:26&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It&#8217;s dicey, it&#8217;s very dicey. If I was one of these other students who&#8217;s not getting this preferential treatment, I&#8217;d feel a bit put off by it. But you know, this relationship was allowed to fester, and it was allowed to continue, and then it became something else.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 20:45&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Well, maybe not even fester. Flourish, for a while.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 20:48&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Flourish, exactly, and it became something else. So it&#8217;s kind of like once it becomes that other thing, at that point, it doesn&#8217;t seem that questionable anymore.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 20:58&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But what happens later in the story, if you remember, is when David gets back into trouble with the drugs, and Abraham finds out. His duty should be to go to the school and say, All right, our student, I found out he&#8217;s on drugs again. We need to do something about it. But actually, what does he do? He tells David, Look, they&#8217;re coming to do a test. Get out of here and sober up before your test and clean your system before you get tested. He&#8217;s actually trying to help his buddy out, right? And so it shows just how far he has gone in terms of over the boundary at that point. But what I will say to your point too, is that the fact that Abraham, at the end of this, is willing to write this story down and share it with everybody, I don&#8217;t know if it absolves him of it, but clearly he must have understood everything that was happening. I mean, if you wrote this down and published it, it&#8217;s possible that the board of directors in your university or something will be like, Okay, you need to be a slap on the wrist for inappropriate behavior with students, or at least get a warning or something for future, right? He was actually very honest about everything that happened, and I thought that was the really interesting thing about this. Because I was like, You know what, if I&#8217;m going to write a memoir, I probably would leave out a lot of this stuff. So he was pretty brutally honest about it, and I do respect him for it. And it kind of shows, I think he knows he&#8217;s over the line. He definitely says words to that effect in the later part of the story.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 22:38&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">For sure. I mean, it&#8217;s a classic moral dilemma, right? Where do your loyalties lie? Is it with your friend or is it with the system that you work for that provides your salary?&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 22:51&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I was just asking my wife this question. It was on an unrelated topic. Just last night, I was like, You know when you apply to dental school or medical school, they&#8217;ll give you that scenario, right? During the interview, they&#8217;ll say, You know, you and your buddy have been working together for years, but you notice that he&#8217;s showing up for his shifts drunk. Do you report him to the hospital admin or do you sit down and talk to him? What&#8217;s the correct choice, right? And this exact scenario basically pops up in this book, and Abraham makes his choice and has to live with it.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 23:22&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And I think it all depends on, I mean, to answer the question is, how good of a friend are you? Or how good of a friend is that person to you?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 23:31&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Well, that&#8217;s the real answer.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 23:33&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">What’s the size of the transgression, right?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 23:35&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The official answer is, you salute and report all the news back up to your superior. But the real-world answer is quite a bit more nuanced.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 23:42&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It&#8217;s not realistic to, I don&#8217;t know, when there&#8217;s people involved in relationships, that always gets skewed, and it becomes a gray area.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 23:55&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Right, so the alternative is for Abraham, or anyone in his shoes, to say, I&#8217;m never going to befriend my students. I&#8217;m going to keep a stone wall barrier. And I&#8217;ll admit, I teach medical students, and I&#8217;ve actually played tennis with them because of this book. I&#8217;ve gone to shoot hoops with them because it&#8217;s a nice way to get to know people. But you do become aware that there is this line, and if you go over the line, it could become uncomfortable.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 24:23&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, that&#8217;s true. I just remember my second or third year out of dental school, I was an associate at a practice where the owner of the practice noticed I was getting very friendly with the staff in terms of, like, we were hanging out. And he pulled me aside, and he said, If you want to become the boss one day, you can&#8217;t be friends. You can be friendly, but you can&#8217;t be friends. That&#8217;s just the reality of it, right? And I always remember him, you know, telling that to me and I sort of took it to heart at some level.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 25:00&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Is it true? You’re a boss now, do you feel that way then?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 25:05&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I don&#8217;t feel like I&#8217;m friends with the staff. I&#8217;m friendly with the staff, you know, to have a positive work environment, right? But, no, yeah, I wouldn&#8217;t say I&#8217;m friends with them.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 25:20&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I guess what he means is if you decide at some point you need to change the staff, you need to fire somebody or do something for the sake of the business, it&#8217;s much harder to do that once you&#8217;ve entered the true friendship zone.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 25:34&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, absolutely. Your decision-making becomes skewed, and if you want to let go of someone, it becomes much harder and if you want to talk to someone about changing their habits, sometimes it becomes much harder. It does sort of color the relationship.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 25:51&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But it does seem to be looking at it purely from the vantage point of pragmatism, for the sake of the financial health of the business and the most efficient decision-making possible, not having friends is the way to go. But that seems to be somewhat empty, in a way, like look at our book here. What happens if Abraham does this and says, Okay, there&#8217;s a tennis player, but I&#8217;m gonna resist the urge to go for a hit, and he just won&#8217;t befriend him, right? So this never happens. Are we, as a world, better off without that happening, or are we better off with the way it actually happened?&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 26:28&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I mean, I would say we&#8217;re better off with the way it happened. And I would go even further. I would say that if they never found each other, I&#8217;d be worried about both of them. I mean, with David Smith, the former pro, I mean, that&#8217;s self-inherent in the book, right? It&#8217;s obvious in the book. But I think with Abraham, with Dr. Verghese, he went through a lot of trials and tribulations. I&#8217;d be worried about his mental health if he didn&#8217;t have this tennis in his life, right? Because it felt like he was veering down not a great path. He was living in his own apartment away from his family, with basically a cardboard box as his table, with no furniture. I mean, it has all the hallmarks of someone who&#8217;s undergoing a depression.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 27:21&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Right, at least a major midlife crisis.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 27:23&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, absolutely. And he sort of glazes over it in his book, because it&#8217;s not really the main topic of his book, but I felt like if he didn&#8217;t have the tennis and he didn&#8217;t have David Smith in his life, he could have veered down a very dark path.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 27:37&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It&#8217;s possible. I didn&#8217;t feel that at the time I read it, but maybe that&#8217;s because we&#8217;re hearing it from his learned writing voice, right? He sounds like a very put-together guy. And even as he described living with the cardboard box, he described it in such a beautiful language that I was like, Well, this guy is still okay. I never felt that he was that close to falling apart, really. Except that when you take a step back and think about it, yeah, he&#8217;s living in this less than ideal living situation, and he&#8217;s hanging out with a med student every other day, he has no other friends, he has no other family around. Yeah, he&#8217;s pretty unbalanced at this point. So I think you&#8217;re right. And then, moreover, the fact that they went through this experience and then have this story to tell, like, it is a beautiful story. Sometimes people are like, Why do stories exist? Why do we need novels? This book is so good that it&#8217;s kind of like, this is why this story needs to exist.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 28:40&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, absolutely. And the fact that it&#8217;s based on a true story, actually is a true story, only adds to it. I have a question for you, just to change topics for a bit here. The main sort of crux, the main shadow that sort of hangs over the book is a story of addiction, right? And not just any addiction, a drug addiction, an injectable drug addiction that really, it leaves one of the characters very much in a bad place. And part of the topic of the book is that there&#8217;s other medical professionals who go through this addiction. There&#8217;s an addiction center for doctors.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH </strong>29:34&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">They fly David to one of these centers.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 29:35&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, and it made me think, Okay, they&#8217;re making it sound like this is not uncommon, right? A lot of medical careers are very stressful, and it can lead to this kind of thing. I don&#8217;t have much exposure to this. I&#8217;m wondering what your exposure to this is. Have you noticed this? Have you ever encountered this in your career?&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH </strong>30:00&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Very limited, also. I&#8217;ve never seen it firsthand, but I think this book is kind of old, right? This book comes from the early 90s. I imagine that when this book came out, this would have been something rather shocking to read about. I didn&#8217;t feel shocked by it. I mean, I&#8217;m re-reading it now, but even when I read it years ago, I wasn&#8217;t shocked by it, even though I haven&#8217;t seen these things happen. I guess it comes up in the media in other forms of discourse about doctors, like medical television dramas, it often happens. I think we kind of know this idea that doctors can also do bad things. Maybe in 1990 that was kind of really new to be talking openly about it. But I think now it&#8217;s not a surprise.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 30:52&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I&#8217;ve always felt like most medical professionals, most doctors, are pretty put-together mentally to be able to get through undergrad and to get through a degree in medicine. It’s hard to do, right? It takes a tremendous amount of willpower and discipline that usually these people are more insulated from this kind of thing than other people, but this book paints a different picture. One thing I actually do remember from the first week of dental school, a lot of it was just orientation, and there was this dentist, or former dentist, who gave a talk, and basically he tells his story about how he became addicted to drugs after becoming a dentist, and it was a pretty heart-wrenching story. He was still a fairly young guy. I don&#8217;t remember if he continued to work as a dentist, but what I remember the most was his voice, and his voice sounded off. He sounded like someone who had been badly damaged by drugs. That&#8217;s what it sounded like to me, and it kind of scared me a little bit. Maybe that was the intent of the of the talk, but I think part of it was just to give us the idea that, okay, there are resources to help you with these kind of issues. But this was the very first week of dental school where we were exposed to this. We never talked about this ever again after that. Well, it was an interesting introduction to dentistry.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 32:30&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I feel like there&#8217;s always that joke, right, like dentists have a suicide rate that is higher than, I don&#8217;t even know if that&#8217;s true.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 32:38&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It’s not.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 32:40&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But between dentists and doctors, I mean, you alluded to it. It&#8217;s a very high-stress training, and the job can eat up your whole life. I feel like this book, as we talk about addiction, I&#8217;ll admit that even my medical training, I didn&#8217;t really understand a lot about addiction. If you pulled me aside two years ago, three years ago, and said, Well, why do people become addicted to fentanyl or to opioids? I would have probably said something like, Well, they took it, they took it multiple times, and after a while, biochemically, their body just decided, chemically, it needs this drug, and then the patient, or the person can&#8217;t stop using it right? And that the use of the drugs somehow chemically rewires them, and now they need it all the time. That was my very primitive understanding of addiction, and it was only in the last couple years that I started seeing all these people talking about how actually most addicts have some underlying trauma, right? There&#8217;s some void in their life, something in their childhood, something has happened, and they&#8217;re disconnected from people, and now the addiction is a thing that springs up to fill this void, and it&#8217;s not a good thing. It fills it temporarily, but they need to fill it again and again, and then you need more hits then. I had never even heard about this. I went to medical school, I did residency, I worked for many years, and I don&#8217;t work in the field of addictions, so I guess I&#8217;m not seeing this all the time. But then actually understanding that, which is our new way of understanding addiction, and then going back and reading the tennis partner, I was like, Okay, this kind of makes sense. Abraham doesn&#8217;t write this explicitly, but he does talk a little bit about David&#8217;s complicated past, or what little he knows about it. I think there&#8217;s a part in the book where I think it&#8217;s David&#8217;s mother passes away, and they actually send them back for the funeral, and it turns into a disaster. He comes back from this even worse than before because it brought back all this pain from his previous family life. So I feel like our understanding of it as a society is starting to change, but probably we don&#8217;t talk about it enough. These days when we see it on the news, it&#8217;s like, Well, the reason people are getting addicted is because the drugs are being allowed into the country, and we need to close the borders and stop the Chinese and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but what actually is happening is there&#8217;s some broken down people, emotionally, mentally and that we&#8217;re not dealing with that, we&#8217;re trying to cut this thing off at the border, right? And I think this book is really good at painting David as a really complicated person. It doesn&#8217;t judge him as being good or bad. He&#8217;s just a guy with a really complicated past. He&#8217;s a great tennis player, he&#8217;s super attractive, apparently, there&#8217;s women falling all over him, and because of that, he can be a jerk to the ladies, but he can also be very childlike and innocent at times. He&#8217;s a very complicated character. I think the book did a really good job of painting the picture of addiction and making it much more nuanced than what we&#8217;re used to seeing.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 35:56&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Absolutely, one thing the book did not explore, which is a little bit of a void in the book, as I see it is, they weren&#8217;t able to explore his backstory. So you talk about this trauma, these holes in your life. We don&#8217;t know what those holes are, it hints at it a little bit, definitely, some stuff happened, we don&#8217;t know what, but it&#8217;s clear he does not have a great relationship with his parents. They&#8217;re halfway across the world in Australia. He&#8217;s about as far away from them as you can get, really.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 36:35&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I mean, it&#8217;s by design, I guess. Most of the time, we don&#8217;t know what the real cause of it is, and since the story is written from Abraham&#8217;s point of view, they never get to that point where David can share this. He would have needed to get better from the addiction, and maybe years down the road, share, and that&#8217;s not happening in this story.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 36:54&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, and maybe he&#8217;s not even aware of it himself, right? There&#8217;s something that&#8217;s going on. He knows that he didn&#8217;t have a great childhood, he knows there were some traumas, he&#8217;s still trying to process it, as many people tend to do. They’re processing it throughout their life, right?&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 37:11&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I think that&#8217;s a really interesting thing to think about. But why don&#8217;t we flip it the other way and say, Well, what about Abraham? His life is kind of messed up at the, well, throughout the story. Why is his life messed up? And he is actually Mr. Introspection, he&#8217;s given us everything he can about his life. Do you feel that you understand why his marriage falls apart? Or is it as simple as he&#8217;s working too hard, he&#8217;s never home? I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s it.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 37:35&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Well, he had an affair, right? I think that was the breaking point.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 37:38&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Right, so why did he have an affair?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 37:40&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That’s the point of no return. That was a symptom of the underlying problems. But his wife took the kids and left and went to India, and that&#8217;s when he had the affair, they left him. But why did they leave him? I mean, it&#8217;s a variety of reasons, he was a bit vague about that part of it.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 38:00&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Right, so maybe even he doesn&#8217;t know, right? These things are possible. A lot of times these things happen, we kind of look back, and try to make sense of our actions. They are sometimes rooted in our past, sometimes they&#8217;re not. But he does tell a bit about his parents’ relationship and his parents, I think, were separated too. I think at one point he alludes to that he&#8217;s doing the same thing that his parents did to him. So he&#8217;s a little bit aware of what&#8217;s going on, at the very least, at this point in time. But it&#8217;s interesting to think about it. These are complicated characters, much more complicated than most fictional characters, actually, because you can really see their inner flaws.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 38:45&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, absolutely. One moment that I want to bring light to, and I see it as almost like you can divide the book into two parts, right? There&#8217;s the first half and the second half. The dividing line is, there&#8217;s a time where they have a drink together, and they discuss, and the truth comes out of them, and they tell each other their truth. They&#8217;ve been basically hiding behind the tennis for a long time. And Abraham comes clean about how he&#8217;s getting a divorce, and him and his wife are going to be separated soon, and he&#8217;s gonna be separated from the rest of his family. They had never discussed that before. And David came clean about his addiction issues and how he had to repeat multiple years in medical school, right? And I felt like after they were able to confide each other their truths, the story sort of took a different turn after that. It became much more of a friendship after that, and they let their guard down a lot more after that. Before that, it was the tennis that really kept them together, but I feel like after that, now they&#8217;re really intertwined from a relationship perspective.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 40:11&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When you say it that way, it makes me realize there&#8217;s another angle to this book. I guess you mentioned it, the bromance thing, but I think this is really a man&#8217;s story, you know? Because I don&#8217;t know how true this is, but I definitely feel like as an adult, middle-aged guy, it is hard to nurture friendships. And this book shows how difficult it is and how strange it is even for them to start to become friends. There&#8217;s so many rules in place to block friendship, right? And because of the circumstance, because of the tennis, they&#8217;re able to get past that barrier and get to this point where they can openly share stuff. How rare is that in life?&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 40:58&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, that&#8217;s true. I mean, I would say once you get past the age of 30, it does become exponentially harder to make friends.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 41:05&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Maybe it&#8217;s not a guy thing. Maybe it&#8217;s true for women too. So maybe it&#8217;s just an adult life thing.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 41:08&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Possibly, I think, Okay, first thing happens once you get in a relationship, and then you get married, that that starts to take up a lot of your time, right? Then next thing, you have kids, maybe one kid, maybe two kids, now, the second kid is here.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 41:25&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Right? And now you&#8217;re rising up in your career, and your mentor told you, just be friendly to people. Don&#8217;t actually be friends with them. So all these people are out, right?&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 41:34&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah. So then your friends are basically the friends that you had before, but then you&#8217;re gonna lose some of those friends because you&#8217;re just not going to have the time, or they&#8217;re in a different space, a mind space in life, right? You&#8217;ll tend to relate better to the people who are going through the same thing as you are, so usually people with kids as well. Maybe your kids can have playdates with each other. That&#8217;s how you maintain those friendships.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 41:55&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Okay, so then I&#8217;ll ask you this, because we&#8217;re about the same age, and we&#8217;re both going through adult life, if something like this was happening to you, do you feel like you have people in your life that you could talk to about? Because it takes a long time for Abraham and David to break this veneer for him to admit that he&#8217;s having marital problems and stuff. Do you feel like you have a couple people you can turn to?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 42:16&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If I was having marital problems, or if I was going through addiction issues?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 42:20&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Or something major crisis, the things that normally we wouldn&#8217;t talk about to casual friends, because people are like, Hey, how&#8217;s it going? It&#8217;s good. Things are good, right?&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 42:29&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Things are good, fine. I&#8217;m good. I&#8217;m fine.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 42:32&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Taxes suck, right? But I&#8217;m good.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 42:36&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Well, I don&#8217;t know, can I come talk to you, Dave?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 42:39&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">You definitely can talk to me, but we have to do it around the guise of talking about a sports book every month.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 42:45&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Right, maybe we should record it on a podcast. No. I mean, I feel like I do. There&#8217;s people out there that I can talk to. How many people? Not as many as there used to be probably.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 43:01&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Right, a few, right? I would say there&#8217;s probably a couple.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 43:03&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">There&#8217;s a few, and these are people who I&#8217;ve known probably most of my life. It&#8217;s not going to be someone new in my life.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 43:10&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That&#8217;s what makes this special, right? This friendship is like Haley&#8217;s comet. It appears very rarely in life that you would meet a new person that you have a big age gap with. Abraham and David are different generations, big age gap, different culture, different standing in the hospital. The hospital is probably, you know, the education system forbids them to actually become friends, so they have to get around all these things. And the thing that lets them bypass all this is they both love to play tennis. So that&#8217;s kind of neat.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 43:45&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I think it is a beautiful story when you put it that way. I am a sucker for a good bromance. I don&#8217;t know what it is, just having that sort of companionship. It’s a little bit off topic, but I was recently watching re-watching a movie that I really enjoy. It&#8217;s called <strong>End of Watch</strong>. I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve ever heard of it before. It revolves around a bromance between these two cops who are partners. Jake Gyllenhaal is in it. Michael Pena is in it. They have so much natural chemistry as friends, right? They&#8217;re both married to their wives in the movie, but they have such a connection throughout the movie. And it made me think of that, because I love myself a good bromance, and <strong>Tennis Partner</strong> is as good as any. It&#8217;s as good as that.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 44:37&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">All right. Well, since you&#8217;re sharing about your love of bromance, I will tell you the thing that I&#8217;m a sucker for in stories is mentor-mentee relationships. I don&#8217;t know why, but I think, you know, in the original <strong>Star Wars</strong> movie, my all-time favorite character in <strong>Star Wars</strong> is the old man, Obi-Wan Kenobi. To me, that is the coolest character. This is a grizzled old guy who&#8217;s been through the wars, bad stuff happened to him. He should be really down on his luck, really cynical, but he&#8217;s been charged with the task of teaching Luke something, and I thought that was the coolest thing, because he&#8217;s just paying it forward. And that&#8217;s why this story works for me too, because this is the mentor-mentee, right? Abraham wants David to become better, almost to the point where it&#8217;s getting a little weird, you know, like in the later, Abraham&#8217;s an internal medicine specialist, and he specifically does infectious diseases. He secretly has this thing where he really wants David to go into internal medicine. And when David tells him, I want to do emergency medicine, or I want to do surgery, he gets all offended, right? He&#8217;s like a jilted lover, right? So, he can&#8217;t handle that. But I love that there is this element of the old teaching the new, and trying to push the young guys to become better. I love that.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 46:05&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, Abraham is very honest emotionally throughout this book, to the point where it is a little bit odd and uncomfortable. But I think that you love the mentor-mentee relationship. It goes back to your love of college basketball coaches like Bob Knight. Leaders of young men, teaching them not just about basketball, but about life. Coach Dean Smith.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 46:31&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I love that. I mean, it&#8217;s also just my relationship with my own mentors, right? Your mentors teach you, and then you grew up and you mentor the next generation, and it&#8217;s like this cycle. It&#8217;s great. I love it. I love teaching and learning. So I guess that&#8217;s part of all this.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 46:48&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It&#8217;s great. So, one thing that struck me emotionally in the book was towards the end, when David had his relapse. That part of the book kind of frightened me, kind of scared me. Just the turn that it took in what happened to David, what took hold of him.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 47:13&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">You&#8217;re talking about the last relapse.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 47:14&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, and who he turned into, it freaked me out, basically. And I don&#8217;t know, when something like this happens, it&#8217;s always like you get the idea that you&#8217;re not that far away from something like that. It&#8217;s possible, life is a bit crazy, and one wrong turn, you could end up like that. I don&#8217;t know that that&#8217;s true, necessarily, but it did freak me out in that way a little bit.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 47:43&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Be more specific, you felt like that could happen to any of us, that we could take one wrong turn and suddenly lose everything?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 47:50&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, I mean, because David&#8217;s throughout, I&#8217;m gonna say 80 to 90% of the book, comes across as a very normal human being and a relatively bright guy, right? And, you know, on the surface, I guess it&#8217;s purely on the surface.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 48:12&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I would say maybe for 40% of the book, he maintains that veneer until you start to see the cracks. His relationship with his girlfriend, I think is one of the early signs that this guy&#8217;s a bit of a mess. Then you start to meet some of the people that knew him earlier in medical school, and you start to hear what other people think of him and it&#8217;s not that straightforward. So I think by the end, I&#8217;m not that surprised that this is happening. All the seeds have been there for a long time.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 48:40&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, it&#8217;s supposed to, but I was just struck by how fast it happened and how extreme the changes were. That&#8217;s probably what&#8217;s what scared me the most is how he basically turned into a werewolf, essentially.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 48:54&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, I mean, we&#8217;re joking about it, but it is actually quite frightening, what happens at the end, right? He becomes completely disconnected from all of them.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 49:03&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, we don&#8217;t want to spoil it completely, but yeah.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 49:06&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">People can tell where we&#8217;re going with this.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 49:08&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, absolutely. Any other thoughts about the book, Dave? Any other favorite parts, or any anything interesting to share?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 49:17&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I think we covered all the main things I want to talk about, except this thing of should we put it in the pantheon of greatest sports books of all time?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 49:27&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I mean, for us to do that, it would have to be a sports book.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 49:33&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">All right, so let&#8217;s answer that question.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 49:34&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I think this is loosely a sports book. I wouldn&#8217;t call this a sports book. I think it&#8217;s a bromance that weaves many topics into it, one of them being a regular tennis game, but that&#8217;s not the story. Even though that is in the title, that&#8217;s just a reference to a person. It&#8217;s not necessarily a reference to the sport in particular. To me, this is not a sports book. What do you think?&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 50:01&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">All right, I&#8217;m gonna try to convince you that it&#8217;s a sports book. Without the tennis, the relationship doesn&#8217;t happen, right? And it&#8217;s not just a conduit for them meeting the first time. The tennis recurs throughout the book multiple times. They have multiple conversations on the court, there&#8217;s this whole journey of how, I think they even watch tennis together on TV. It is really a vehicle for them to further their relationship over time. It also is a vehicle for them to play out a lot of their feelings towards each other. I think usually when they play, David kind of lets Abraham hang with him, but later in the story, at some points where he&#8217;s feeling volatile, he pounds Abraham. And I think Abraham beats him once, and stuff. So there is some sports action here, but there&#8217;s a lot of subtext to what&#8217;s going on. I think without the tennis, the story doesn&#8217;t even happen. So I will make the case that I think this is actually a sports book. It talks quite a bit about Abraham&#8217;s tennis life, as a recreational tennis player and a tennis fan. Enough that I think it should qualify. I just want to play the pantheon chimes. But I would call this a sports book, and a medical humanities book, and a bromance.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 51:29&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Okay, I mean, I guess you could say &#8211; we talked about this in the beginning &#8211; it is many stories weaved together, and one of those is a book about sports, and that sport being tennis. Okay, you&#8217;ve convinced me, Dave. But now the question, does it deserve a spot?&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 51:46&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Well, now that we&#8217;ve said it that way, you called it one of the greatest books you&#8217;ve ever read. I will not call it one of the greatest books I&#8217;ve ever read, but it is a very good book. I would vote for it to go into the pantheon, but I&#8217;ll let the deciding vote sit with you.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 51:58&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Well, I think we obviously know where I sit with this. This is such a slam dunk case for the pantheon.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 52:06&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A smash, not a slam dunk.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 52:09&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It&#8217;s an overhead smash, easy, no thought involved, this book belongs in the pantheon.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 52:17&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">All right. There we go. Play the music.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 52:29&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">All right, so we&#8217;ve inducted another book into the pantheon. But seriously, whether it&#8217;s a sports book or not is not that important of a distinction. This is just a great read, and I&#8217;m happy that it hits sports so that you and I could talk about it. I&#8217;m happy that it&#8217;s part of medicine and medical education so we can talk about it. From a humanities standpoint, it&#8217;s a great book. We tried not to give away too much of the nitty gritty details, but I think even if we gave some of it away, people should just read it. It&#8217;s such a deep book. There&#8217;s so much going on in it.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 52:58&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, if you&#8217;re listening to this right now, I hope you&#8217;ve either read it or you plan on reading it because it&#8217;s well worth your time and it&#8217;s well worth your energy. It&#8217;s a must read.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 53:10&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I was reading it at the swimming pool one day during my kids swimming lesson, and a guy saw me reading the book, and was like, Is this book good? I&#8217;m like, yeah, it&#8217;s good. He&#8217;s like, I&#8217;ve been meaning to read this. And I was like, Oh, are you a doctor? And he said, no, it&#8217;s just a book that I&#8217;ve been meaning to read, but if you said it&#8217;s good, I&#8217;m definitely going to read it. So, whoever you are out there, I hope you got to it, because this is actually really worth it.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 53:33&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yeah, you know what? It is rare, actually, to see someone else physically reading a book. I take my son to Taekwondo, and occasionally there&#8217;s this other parent there, and he&#8217;s usually reading a different book each time. I&#8217;m always curious to see what he&#8217;s reading.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 53:49&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Do you talk to him? You should talk to him. You should tell him that you are part of a literary podcast, and now you&#8217;re also on a medical humanities podcast. They&#8217;ll be blown away.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 53:57&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Dave, it&#8217;s extremely hard to make friends at this age, extremely hard. There&#8217;s a meme that I always laugh at where you&#8217;re given two choices, talk to the parent of another kid at the playground, or put your hand in the blender. I look at the blender and I think, maybe the blender.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 54:17&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">All right. Well, anyways, maybe you can take us out with a quote. Have you found something to show us one last taste of <strong>The Tennis Partner</strong>?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DB</strong> 54:31&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Within your secrets lies your sickness, Dr. Talbot had said to me when I talked to him long after David&#8217;s death. If David never sustained a lasting recovery, it was because he never let go of his secret. There were some bars that never came down. His secret is still with him. He still walks alone.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>DH</strong> 54:53&nbsp;</p>



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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2025 18:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The world as we know it can be divided into two eras – before and after 2007. This was the year that Apple released the iPhone, a revolutionary computing device which harnessed immense computing power and the connectivity of the internet into a palm-sized gadget. Today, these devices and their associated software applications have become ubiquitous and have transformed the nature of life itself.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">These changes have not all been for the better. Perhaps you have noticed such unsettling changes yourself. A child in a restaurant is glued to a tablet screen, probably the last resort of a weary parent trying to enjoy their first peaceful meal in days. A group of tourists in Paris marvels at the Eiffel Tower, not as it is, but as it appears through their phone camera and on their phone screen. Neighborhoods have become quieter and less lively, as children have retreated from the streets and hunkered down at home with their phones.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Jonathan Haidt, a social psychologist at the NYU Stern School of Business, elaborates upon these ideas in his book <em>The Anxious Generation</em>. In this book, he describes the dual trends of increasing smartphone/screen-based engagement, driven by perverse economic incentives of technology companies, and decreasing real-world, human-to-human play, driven by over-protection from modern parents. The collision of these forces has defined Gen Z, born between 1997 and 2012, as the most anxious and depressed generation of our time.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In the book, Haidt notes that the tactics of technology companies to drive increased user engagement have been well documented by activists such as Tristan Harris. Much like tobacco companies in the mid to late 20<sup>th</sup> century, modern technology companies prey on young users (e.g. children) as a source of future/recurring revenue, and fight off consumer protections through aggressive lobbying campaigns at the government level. As a result, children are spending record numbers of hours on smartphones, increasingly isolated from the real world and irritable when deprived of their digital drugs. Haidt also observes that the technology problems of girls and boys are unique. For example, girls are significantly more prone to social media addiction and the associated psychological disturbances such as distorted body image and self-worth. On the other hand, boys are much more avid users of video games and pornography, which reduce their desire for real-world play and romantic relationships.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Haidt also notes that over a longer but overlapping time period, children have been overly protected from real-world responsibilities and real-world play. He attributes these new attitudes to the changing media landscape and how crimes are portrayed in the news, as well as legal challenges which have incentivized parental overprotection. In one example, he describes a pitiful incident in which an eight-year-old child was seen walking the streets alone, and a concerned passerby called the police to report an “abandoned child.” In this case and many others, parents have been held responsible for this absurd new “crime”, a sight which would have been entirely commonplace 30 years ago. Haidt highlights the irony of how the real-world, full of rich experiences, appropriate risk-taking, and character-building responsibilities has been overly regulated by our society, whereas the digital world, rife with dangers for growing adolescent minds, has been almost entirely unchecked, unregulated, and ignored.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Bringing people out of the digital world and into the real world is a formidable task. One strategy that Haidt found success with was to encourage people to reconnect with a sense of awe in the world. Awe is a vague concept, but can be defined as a feeling of wonder inspired by the sacred or sublime. The real world is full of such awe-inspiring moments, if only we could stop to notice them. In a comically simple exercise, Haidt encouraged students in his university course to take a walk through Manhattan without their phones or headphones, and then to write about their experience on this “awe walk.” The written reflections were so beautiful that he included excerpts of his students’ work in the book to illustrate how such simple measures could have such a profound impact. One such excerpt is reproduced below:&nbsp;</p>



<figure class="wp-block-pullquote has-palette-color-5-background-color has-background"><blockquote><p>“It was a perfect April day when the cherry trees were in full bloom. I was so overwhelmed with how beautiful the park seemed in the spring, that I took time sitting on a bench, contemplating its beauty, and finding moral delight and affection to the people I see walking around, smiling at each of them as they look at me. “&nbsp;</p></blockquote></figure>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">For children who have no choice but to grow up in the digital era, Haidt attempts to boil his recommendations down into four rules for a healthier childhood:&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



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<li>No smartphones until high school.&nbsp;</li>
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<li>No social media before the age of 16.&nbsp;</li>
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<li>No phones in schools.&nbsp;</li>
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<li>More independence, play, and responsibility in the real world.&nbsp;</li>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">He recognizes that while these solutions are simple, their implementation is anything but. As a society, we face a daunting collective action problem as it pertains to technology and real-world experiences. Such problems require collective solutions, and Haidt encourages parents to get together, organize, and raise their children together in a real-world oriented manner. While broader changes in school policy may seem out of reach, Haidt encourages struggling schools to get inspired by the numerous case studies of schools that went phone-free and experienced positive changes by almost every metric, within a matter of two to three years.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Some may say that our society is too far gone to reverse these negative changes, but this is certainly not the case. In fact, people are more skeptical now than ever of the negative role of technology in our lives, and collective action on this problem may be easier now than it ever has been before. As we sit perched on the precipice of a new technological revolution in artificial intelligence, this sentiment has already garnered potent opposition to unchecked technological advance and implementation. Will we learn from our past mistakes? Unfortunately, our track record is not encouraging. Only time will tell how far we go before we decide we need a detox. <br><br> </p>



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<p class="has-palette-color-5-background-color has-background has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph"><strong>The Anxious Generation&nbsp;</strong><br>Jonathan Haidt&nbsp;<br>Penguin Press, New York City, March 26, 2024, 400 pages<br>Web Photo by&nbsp;<a href="https://unsplash.com/@joelft?utm_content=creditCopyText&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=unsplash">Joel Fulgencio</a>&nbsp;</p>



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		<title>Martyr! by Kaveh Akbar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Howard Trachtman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 00:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Can a book be out of sync with the large themes that it grapples with? I could not escape this thought as I read <em>Martyr!</em>, an enthralling novel that tackles the question of what it means to live a life infused with meaning. It recounts the story of Cyrus Shams, who has grown up in Indiana after his single-parent father emigrated from Iran to America. His mother was killed when her airplane was shot out of the sky by a sea-to-air missile fired from the USS Vincennes, a real life historical event that occurred in July 1988. His grief-stricken father is employed in a factory farm in Fort Wayne killing chickens each day on a massive, industrial scale and appears to be biding his time on Earth until Cyrus leaves home and becomes independent.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Cyrus aspires to be a poet but is drowning in self-pity and drug use. He wants more than anything to achieve renown and martyrdom and to die after having made a lasting mark in the world. Interwoven with these tragic human circumstances are antic elements that collide with this depressing narrative. The novel opens abruptly with a humorous but disconcerting encounter between Cyrus, who is working as a surrogate patient in an introduction to medicine class, and a student, who is clearly in the early stages of her education. Cyrus is having a bad day and cynically takes on the role of the difficult patient, nearly driving the student to tears. There is a zany episode when Cyrus and a friend take on a home maintenance and wood chopping job for a man who lives alone and who monitors their work wearing only his underwear.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Dream sequences in which Cyrus receives guidance from figures ranging from Kareem Abdul Jabbar to a thinly disguised, now President Trump materialize without warning. An uncle, his mother’s older brother, passes through the story several times appearing as a figure draped in a black hooded cape and riding on horseback across the blood-drenched Iran-Iraq war battlefields. His mission is to reassure the dying soldiers that they will ascend to paradise. Yet, despite these disparate elements, the book has a powerful coherence and momentum. One of the most striking features of the book is its extraordinarily imaginative similes&#8211; “he was skinny in a scrawny way, not like a runner but like a mathematician who forgets to eat,” “the middle school teacher… offered him a racial slur, like a juicy orange they might peel together and share.” These phrases demand that you slow down the pace of your reading and take note of the author’s creativity.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Engagement with language and its communicative limitations emerges as a key theme of <em>Martyr!</em>. Cyrus comments frequently on the arbitrariness of language and the terrifying consequences that can arise from the words we use. Akbar embeds this idea in his writing by implying that plain words alone are inadequate to capture the essence of things, and the only reliable way to convey meaning to readers is by creating vivid and arresting comparisons. The plot of the book takes off when Cyrus is encouraged by a friend to go to the Brooklyn Museum and visit a featured exhibit, DEATH-SPEAK. It consists of an artist who is dying of cancer sitting on a chair and talking with the visitors about death during the final weeks of her life. An unanticipated bond is quickly established between the artist named Orkideh and Cyrus. He feels compelled to return and speak with her over the next four days. Their conversation is genuine and moving. There is more to the artist and her art than meets Cyrus’ eye, and those unexpected twists drive the story to its blazing finish.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">What is one to make of this wholly original and emotionally charged novel? I will restrict myself to three thoughts that have had staying power after finishing the book a month ago. First, as mentioned above, <em>Martyr!</em> raises provocative questions about the limitations of language and our ability to communicate with one another. Cyrus (and Akbar) questions the capacity of words alone to express meaning, as if each of us has our own private language. If we can firmly ground our language with references to concrete, real life experiences, which is precisely what Akbar does with the beautiful and jarring similes that are interwoven into the entire book, then we may be able to convey meaning. That Akbar can introduce such a recondite idea, a variant of playing language games, into a best-selling novel is a feat worth noting.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Second, there is a yearning to be healed that drives Cyrus’ quest. Martyrdom is the outer expression, but it is a quest for meaning that is the true driving force that motivates Cyrus to take healthy action in the novel. He attends a group therapy program and has a tough-minded supervisor to help him detox from his drug use. Ultimately, it is the new awareness that Cyrus gains about his parents that enables him to achieve psychological equanimity and peace of mind.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Finally, what is the martyrdom that Cyrus longs for? He is not looking to wrap himself with explosives, kill the infidels, and gain entry to paradise. One could say that what he so desperately wants is lasting fame and renown for an act or artistic creation that will be seen as unique and cherished, that will survive after him, and that will keep his name eternally alive. <em>The Book of Martyrs</em>, a fictional collection of poems written by Cyrus that are interspersed in the text, could conceivably represent this hoped-for act of martyrdom. However, the ending of the novel suggests that Akbar may have a less explosive and more intimate notion of what martyrdom means. The knowledge that Cyrus gains over the course of the novel and his interactions with Orkideh spur him to finally achieve the martyrdom he seeks. His ultimate fate on the final page is actually a bit murky. But the vision that one is left with is that Cyrus has indeed achieved a life of meaning because it is a life of meaningful interpersonal connections.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="has-palette-color-5-background-color has-background has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Martyr!&nbsp;</strong><br>Kaveh Akbar&nbsp;<br>Alfred A. Knopf, 2024, pp 332&nbsp;<br>Web image by <a href="https://unsplash.com/@levimeirclancy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Levi Meir Clancy</a></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When I first read <em>Blinded Birds</em>, an award-winning collection of poetry by B. Fulton Jennes, I entered a world I assumed I knew. After a long career in nursing, I thought I was familiar with the wages of depression and addiction. But the poems in <em>Blinded Birds </em>took me deep into new territory, into multigenerational suffering and almost miraculous recovery. I was eager to talk with Jennes to find out more about these brave poems and her willingness to expose her family&#8217;s long hidden afflictions.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Cortney Davis</strong>: The poems in <em>Blinded Birds </em>are startling and sometimes difficult to read. Can you talk about the process of writing such personal poems&#8211;how you considered the idea of &#8220;truth&#8221; in poetry as you were writing?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>B. Fulton Jennes</strong>: The poems in <em>Blinded Birds</em> are 100% autobiographical. One of the book’s reviewers called them “brutally honest,” and many people have told me they needed to stop reading to compose themselves before continuing (I guess that’s a compliment!). The intent was not to shock but, rather, to <em>heal</em>. For me, the only path to that healing was complete, unfiltered honesty. As we say in the program, you’re only as sick as your secrets, and I’d been holding in those poisonous secrets for far too long. Poet Anne Carson might insist that art is not therapy, but it was for me in writing these poems.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>CD</strong>:&nbsp; <em>Blinded Birds </em>is your first poetry collection, but you&#8217;ve been writing award winning poems for some time. When did you begin your journey as a poet?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>BFJ</strong>: When I was a child my grandmother used to read to me from my father’s copy of <em>A Child’s Garden of Verse</em>; I loved the rhymes and the musicality of the poems. Also, my mom wanted to be a writer when she was in high school. She used to write poems with me in the morning before I went to school. Of course, I took all the credit for them with my teacher!&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>CD</strong>:&nbsp; And now you&#8217;re writing poems that are like explosions on the page, visceral and stripped-bare. How did you come to write these particular poems? Was there a triggering event?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>BFJ</strong>: It was after we discovered my daughter Mallory’s heroin addiction. Mal was home from college and preparing to begin overseas graduate studies when we found her overdosed and, essentially, dead on her bedroom floor. Fortunately, I was able to resuscitate her until the EMTs arrived, so she lived and entered a residential treatment program. But processing all that happened in the months that followed&#8211;including Mallory’s subsequent relapse and years of active addiction&#8211;threw both my husband and me into a state of perpetual PTSD. It also evoked memories of my own addiction to alcohol, including during Mal’s infancy (I relapsed when her pediatrician advised me to drink beer because my milk production insufficient and she was losing weight. I’m an addict&#8211;who was I to argue?). Additionally, she and I have both been treated for depression since childhood (I was on Valium when I was 12, for God’s sake&#8211;and Mallory’s depression manifested much earlier), and my mother suffered from horrible depression, most likely untreated bipolar disorder, throughout my childhood. So all of those factors congealed during this period&#8211;the memories, the fears, the regrets, the anger, the sorrow. The only way I could manage was to write my way through.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>CD</strong>:&nbsp; Writing the poems must have been an extraordinary experience. Your poems about saving Mallory&#8217;s life (&#8220;Eating Dinner, After You Died,&#8221; &#8220;The Waitings&#8221;) begin in despair and end in hope. You might have kept these poems to yourself but chose to offer them publically in a collection. How did the publication of this book affect you emotionally and how have the poems affected your family?&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>BFJ</strong>:&nbsp; Let’s start with my family, first and foremost my daughter since she is a central character in the collection’s story arc. By the time I was ready to submit <em>Blinded Birds</em> to publishers, Mallory was in relatively long-term recovery&#8211;in fact, she had gone to graduate school to become a certified addictions counselor. I would never have published the poems without her permission, and she readily gave it, realizing not only the personal importance of telling our story but also the potential of connecting with others and offering them hope as a result since the final poems in the collection celebrate our joint recovery. Sadly, my mother&#8211;the third central character in the book&#8211;never achieved relief from her depression before she died. She was of a generation that clung to the belief that depression is a character flaw, not a treatable medical condition&#8211;much as addiction is still shrouded in stigma today. My husband was behind the book 100%. The rest of the family, including many who never realized our ongoing struggles with mental illness, were initially shocked but ultimately supportive. We got a lot of, “I’m so sorry&#8211;I never knew,” which just shows how well we hid the truth for so long.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>I can feel the healing they’ve received from knowing they’re not alone. It’s therapeutic for all of us&#8211;the giver and the receivers of hope.&nbsp;</p></blockquote></figure>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">How did the book’s publication affect me emotionally? I think both Mallory and I feel really empowered by having the truth out in the open for others to learn from and, perhaps, glean hope from. Every time I finish a reading, people from the audience approach me to share their stories, especially ones about their own children who suffered, or suffer, from addiction. I can feel the healing they’ve received from knowing they’re not alone. It’s therapeutic for all of us&#8211;the giver and the receivers of hope.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>CD</strong>: Your poems seem to be &#8220;spot on&#8221; in examining the cultural and societal issues so many families struggle with today. It has been said that the personal is universal, and your very personal poems speak directly to these issues. Was that something you considered when writing, that your work might help others understand the genesis and effects of addiction?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>BFJ</strong>:&nbsp; It’s only in studying how others react to the poems that I’ve developed a keener awareness of society’s misevaluation of addiction and addicts. However, while drafting the poems, I definitely took a “genetics as culprit” approach. The three of us recently had genetic testing done, which revealed that both Mallory and I have the A1 allele. In study after study, that mutation on the brain’s dopamine receptors has been very closely linked to early-onset depression, severe alcoholism, ADHD, intractable PTSD, and a heightened risk for addiction to opioids. There are two poems at the beginning of the book that highlight the fury I feel at being a victim of genetics: “Blinded Birds” and “To an Allele.” And I wish I could have shared those findings with my mother who no doubt blamed herself rather than her genetic inheritance for her lifelong depression. (Her father was severely alcoholic and despondent; two of her siblings committed suicide.)&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>CD</strong>: When you understood the genetic component of depression and addiction did you feel relieved somehow of guilt or blame? I very much admire your poem &#8220;Triple Helix&#8221; that helps you &#8220;pry apart the DNA / that twists our fates together . . . .&#8221;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>BFJ</strong>:&nbsp; Vindicated, perhaps, but not guiltless. There’s another poem in the book titled “Every Bad Thing That Ever Happened to Me Happened When I Was Drunk,” and that’s pretty much the truth of it. And not just the bad things that happened to <em>me</em>, but the bad things I imposed upon others, most notably my daughter. I relapsed twice during her childhood: once when she was an infant (the poem “Alky Mommy” speaks to that) and again when she was a teen&#8211;the two most impressionable periods in a child’s development. During those times, I was unavailable to Mallory on many levels. That’s why there’s so much regret and sorrow mixed with anger in discovering the genetic connection to addiction&#8211;my genes might have opened the door for me, but I’m the one who wrecked the room.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>CD</strong>: Yet you did not leave the room in shambles. The last several poems in <em>Blinded Birds </em>speak to healing and resolution. In the book&#8217;s last poem, &#8220;Hovenweep,&#8221; you write &#8220;And then you, a damaged daughter, saved me. / And then I, a mother damned, saved you.&#8221; Do you have a favorite poem among those that bring the book to a close with hope?&nbsp;<em>&nbsp;</em>&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>BFJ</strong>: Yes! My favorite is “Return,” the second-to-last poem in the collection. I still connect to it, feel its power, whenever I read it. In it, I metaphorically compare recovery to a tree reawakening after a long winter, a long night. Isn’t that exactly what it feels like, the first time you wake up and don’t ache for a drink or a fix? You feel alive again. It’s remarkable. Like being reborn.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>CD</strong>: You often give well attended readings. Is it difficult for you to share such emotional and revealing poems?&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>BFJ</strong>: Not at all. As I’ve mentioned, I can feel the healing that’s happening in the room&#8211;both for me and for those in attendance. Sure, there are some who can’t scurry away quickly enough after the reading (!), but I tell myself that they’re the ones who most needed to hear the poems.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>CD</strong>: Yes, sometimes we experience something&#8211;a poem that cuts too close perhaps&#8211;and it&#8217;s often only later that we realize how we&#8217;ve been touched, been changed. Has writing <em>Blinded Birds </em>changed you or your family in any way?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>BFJ</strong>: Personally, I’ve gained confidence on many levels since the book’s publication&#8211;as a poet, as a public speaker, as a truth-teller and giver of hope. I’m unafraid&#8211;unlike all those years I felt hidden and hurt by the truth. I think everyone in the family feels pretty much the same.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>CD</strong>: Once in a lecture years ago at NYU the poet Yehuda Amichai said that in war, poems can&#8217;t save us. Do you think poetry can save us? Can it bring about changes in our society?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>BFJ</strong>: It certainly has saved me on more than one occasion. So on a personal level, absolutely: poetry saves. But I see the powerful poems being written about the atrocities occurring in so many places today, and while those poems have impacted my sense of urgency and compassion, I don’t see that power playing out on a political level. I think the effect of art&#8211;whether poetry, song, or visual art&#8211;is limited to moving a pre-disposed audience. Sadly, they “preach to the choir”&#8211;albeit powerful and affective preaching.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>CD</strong>: And now that Blinded Birds has found wide readership, tell me about your latest book. You’ve written again about your family, but this time about a special and specific person.&nbsp;</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>BFJ: </strong>Yes&#8211;<em>FLOWN </em>(Porkbelly Press, 2024)<em> </em>is an elegy-in-verse for my late sister, who died of metastatic breast cancer in July of 2022. It&#8217;s a chapbook of very short poems, written during the final months of Harriet&#8217;s illness and the days and weeks just after her passing. It&#8217;s raw, very raw. I still relive the anguish of those days when I read the poems.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>CD</strong>: how was writing this book different from—or similar to—writing Blinded Birds?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>BFJ: </strong>In terms of differences, the biggest one was that <em>FLOWN </em>was written while the events were transpiring, rather than in retrospect. It was a period of deep recollection and reflection, sussing&#8211;intuiting really&#8211;the metaphoric connections between Harriet&#8217;s illness (which we knew from the first diagnosis was terminal) and events from our childhood. There were four years between us, so I learned a great deal from her when we were young, just as she taught me so much about life and about the process of dying with her illness and eventual passing.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Both books are rich in symbolism, which I guess was the greatest similarity in writing them. The title and title poem of <em>Blinded Birds</em> reference the old Flemish tradition of <em>vinkensport</em>, in which chaffinches being trained to compete in contests that require them to repeat their distinctive song the most times per hour were once blinded with hot needles to minimize distraction during competition. Cruel, right? I used that analogy to illustrate the cruelty of genetics in predetermining our propensity for addiction&#8211;and, yes, of any god who would create genetic mutations in the first place and use them for his &#8220;sport.&#8221; That metaphor echoes through the poems, just as the symbols of holes (including graves) and birds make repeated appearances throughout <em>FLOWN</em>. &nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>CD</strong>:&nbsp; And one question about your poetic process. Do you have any special inspirations or habits that help you create? Sharon Olds once said that she finds inspiration in walking across water. Some poets have elaborate pre-writing rituals, or must have silence, or can only write at a table at Starbucks.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>BFJ</strong>:&nbsp; For me, it’s hard to find a place quiet enough to write, to achieve that feeling of being completely removed from the world. So I usually draft my poems wearing headphones and listening to either Philip Glass or to theta wave-inducing music online. Both are very hypnotic for me and allow me to reach my Zen place.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>CD</strong>:&nbsp; As one of your fans, I&#8217;m grateful for the words and images that arise from your Zen place! Finally, is there a message or a realization that you hope readers will take away after reading <em>Blinded Birds</em>?&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>BFJ</strong>: First, addiction and depression are genetic “gifts” that no one asks to receive. They are treatable conditions, deserving of society’s and the medical community’s <em>non-judgmental </em>compassion and support, not its dismissal and neglect. Second, there is always, always hope. The path to recovery is fraught with physical and mental anguish, blame-placing, and failure, but keep going. Keep going. Keep going. And help others on their path, too.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



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<p class="has-palette-color-4-color has-text-color has-link-color has-small-font-size wp-elements-37a3cbb44e24a07e9805ea2a8d53e0b1 wp-block-paragraph"><strong>B. Fulton Jennes </strong>is Poet Laureate Emerita of Ridgefield, CT, where she also served for many years as poet-in-residence at The Aldrich Contemporary Art Museum. Her poems have appeared in <em>CALYX</em>, <em>Comstock Review</em>, <em>Extreme Sonnets II,</em> <em>Rust and Moth,</em> <em>SWWIM,</em> <em>Tupelo Quarterly, </em>and many other journals and anthologies. Jennes’ poem “Glyphs of a Gentle Going” was awarded the 2022 Lascaux Prize; another poem, “Father to Son,” won the 2023 New Millennium Award. In 2021, her poem “From the Room of an Unknown Girl” was awarded the Leslie McGrath Prize. Jennes’ first collection of poems, <em>Blinded Birds</em> (Finishing Line Press), received the 2022 International Book Award for a poetry chapbook. Another chapbook, <em>FLOWN</em>—an elegy for her late sister—will be published by Porkbelly Press in 2024. She lives in Ridgefield with husband Chuck.&nbsp;</p>
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<h4 class="wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size">An Opera Singer’s Facial Cancer and Life Transposed </h4>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><em>Rearranged</em> by Kathleen Watt is subtitled “An Opera Singer’s Facial Cancer and Life Tranposed.”&nbsp; At the outset of the book, the author feels on top of the world.&nbsp; She can hardly believe she has the opportunity, as a member of the Metropolitan Opera Extra Chorus, to share the stage with some of her biggest idols.&nbsp; She has a wonderful partner and a warm and close family.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Then, one day, Watt discovers a bump in her mouth.&nbsp; She is found to have a rare and aggressive oral cancer that is “breathtakingly tailored to obliterate my profession and my raison d’être, never mind my face” (p. 51).&nbsp; She undergoes multiple reconstructive surgeries, some of which are unsuccessful or become infected.&nbsp;&nbsp; While she is initially reassured she will be able to sing again in a few months, that goal proves unrealistic.&nbsp; Watt’s partner is emotionally supportive for years, but even for her there is a limit.&nbsp; When the author is unable to pull her own weight financially and develops an addiction to alcohol, the relationship unravels.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The greater part of <em>Rearranged</em> chronicles Watt’s medical ordeals. Previously an active and productive person, she is now at the whim of her doctors’ schedules.&nbsp; She gives up all hope of performing again. As anyone who has experienced an illness or the illness of a loved one knows, navigating the health care system can easily become a full-time job.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The book ends optimistically as Watt’s condition stabilizes. She realizes she is lucky to be alive and accepts her “rearranged” looks.&nbsp; She reconciles herself to a future where she will “henceforth sing mostly for myself “(p. 304), and redefines herself as a writer specializing in the performing arts.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><em>Rearranged</em> is a book which teaches valuable lessons.&nbsp; Watt endures extreme hardship, has her dreams shattered, and acquires wisdom that will benefit providers and patients.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<figure class="wp-block-pullquote has-palette-color-5-background-color has-background"><blockquote><p>As anyone who has experienced an illness or the illness of a loved one knows, navigating the health care system can easily become a full-time job.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p></blockquote></figure>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">One lesson learned is that unempathic caregivers may compound a patient’s suffering.&nbsp; “A multi-gigging freelancer with catastrophic coverage at best” (p. 31), the author has a miscommunication with an endodontist and is threatened with a lawsuit for presumed nonpayment.&nbsp;&nbsp; And when she dares to question another doctor, he snaps at her: “Ha, ha!&nbsp; I’m not going to teach you surgery” (p. 57).&nbsp; Fortunately, other providers have a manner that is more conducive to healing: “Because he [the doctor] conveyed neither arrogance nor impatience, his confident command allowed me to trust him easily.&nbsp; And at that moment, nothing mattered more to my successful outcome” (p. 55), and “Alone among my doctors, he had thought to lament my loss.&nbsp; A helium cloud filled me at this simple expression of kindness.&nbsp; Nothing at that moment could have been more restorative” (p.108).&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">One can understand how traumatic it must be to have one’s facial features distorted as the result of illness.&nbsp; For a singer it can be career-ending, not only because she needs to show her face to the public but because the vocal cavity may be damaged.&nbsp; But, beyond this, because “the face is the single most important organ of human communication” (p.105), the author feels she has lost her identity: “I felt as bereft of myself as I was of my voice…I missed seeing my reflection in the faces of others.&nbsp; I began to lose track of my own subtexts, and myself” (p.237)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The author relates a vivid and frightening memory of experiencing post-operative delirium (sometimes called ICU psychosis). When she comes out of surgery and suddenly realizes she cannot talk because she has had a tracheotomy, she pounds on the wall.&nbsp; She wishes she had had “healthy people to paste accurate information alongside my cockeyed perception, so I could avoid drawing mistaken conclusions from my misperceptions” (p.146).&nbsp; Instead, she overhears attendants saying “Boy, she’s really out of it” (p. 149) and referring to her as “a royal bitch” (p.140).&nbsp; At no time does anyone think to help “confirm her sanity, quell her fears” (p. 150).&nbsp; Hopefully, health care professionals will read this and think about it the next time they see a patient right out of the OR.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In closing, it bears mentioning that at one point Kathleen Watt consults with surgeon Iain Hutchison in London.&nbsp; Hutchison is the initiator and sponsor of the Saving Faces Art Project, a series of paintings by artist Mark Gilbert which “portray the faces of patients before, after and in some cases actually during their surgery for injury, deformity or cancer” and whose purpose is to “communicate the strength of spirit which can enable people with facial disfigurements and trauma to lead full and happy lives.” (from <a href="https://savingfaces.co.uk/our-mission/art-project/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://savingfaces.co.uk/our-mission/art-project/</a> )&nbsp; Likewise, the author of <em>Rearranged </em>inspires the reader by her strength of spirit in the face of inconceivable adversity.&nbsp;</p>



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<p class="has-palette-color-5-background-color has-background has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph"><strong>REARRANGED</strong> <br>An Opera Singer&#8217;s Facial Cancer And Life Transposed<br>Heliotrope Books, New York, 2023&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>384 pages&nbsp;<br><br><strong>Kathleen Watt’s website:</strong>  <a href="http://kathleenwatt.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">kathleenwatt.com</a></p>



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		<title>Getting Dopesick: Four Angles on the Opioid Crisis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russell Teagarden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2023 01:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We explore the opioid crisis through investigative journalism, dramatization, narrative nonfiction, and fiction, highlighting diverse perspectives beyond Biomedicine.]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">We feature four different angles addressing the opioid crisis, mostly as the opioid product OxyContin is involved and as the Appalachian region is affected. Our objective is to show how realms outside Biomedicine—the Humanities, in this case—can provide a range of perspectives suited to preferences, interests, and needs for understanding a particular issue. The four angles we feature are: nonfiction investigative journalism; nonfiction dramatization; narrative nonfiction; and literary fiction. We consider different approaches to selecting the best choice or the best order among available options.</p>



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<p class="has-palette-color-5-background-color has-background has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Source Citations:</strong><br>Macy B. <em>Dopesick</em>. New York; Little, Brown, and Company, 2018<br>Strong D. <em>Dopesick</em>. John Goldwyn Productions, 2021 (streamed on Hulu)<br>Keefe PR. <em>Empire of Pain</em>. New York; Doubleday, 2021.<br>Kingsolver B. <em>Demon Copperhead</em>; Harper, 2022. (Winner of the 2023 Pulitzer Prize for Fiction)<br><br><strong>Links:</strong><br>Russell Teagardens <a href="https://www.accordingtothearts.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">According to the Arts</a> blog pieces mentioned in the podcast: <br><a href="https://www.accordingtothearts.com/2019/04/03/dopesick-dealers-doctors-and-the-drug-company-that-addicted-america/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>Dopesick</em> (nonfiction book – investigative)</a><br><a href="https://www.accordingtothearts.com/2022/01/12/dopesick-tv-miniseries/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>Dopesick</em> (TV miniseries)</a><br><a href="https://www.accordingtothearts.com/2023/02/27/empire-of-painthe-secret-history-of-the-sackler-dynasty/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>Empire of Pain</em> (narrative nonfiction)</a><br><a href="https://www.accordingtothearts.com/2023/01/30/demon-copperhead/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>Demon Copperhead</em> (novel)</a><br><br><a href="https://www.alphaomegaalpha.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Movie-WIN23.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Russell Teagarden’s article in <em>The Pharos</em></a> comparing <em>Dopesick</em> (the book and the TV miniseries) with <em>Demon Copperhead</em><br><br><strong>Recommendations:</strong><br>De Quincey T. <em>Confessions of an English Opium-Eater</em>. New York; Penguin Classics, 2003. (See Russell Teagarden’s blog piece on this book <a href="https://www.accordingtothearts.com/2019/04/15/confessions-of-an-english-opium-eater-being-an-extract-from-the-life-of-a-scholar/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.) <br>Daudet A. <em>In the Land of Pain</em>. (Translator Julian Barnes) New York; Alfred A. Knopf, 2002. (See Russell Teagarden’s blog piece on this book <a href="https://www.accordingtothearts.com/2019/07/15/in-the-land-of-pain/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.)<br><br><a href="https://www.theclinicandtheperson.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><strong>The Clinic &amp; The Person</strong></a> is a podcast developed by our editor<strong> <a href="https://medhum.org/about/#Russell-Teagarden">Russell Teagarden</a></strong> to summon or quicken the attention of health care professionals, their educators, researchers and others to the interests and plights of people with specific health problems aided through knowledge and perspectives the humanities provide.<br><br>Feature photo by <a href="https://unsplash.com/@antipolygon">ANTIPOLYGON</a></p>



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